I believe DPReview urgently needs innovative forums on gardening, pets and knitwear for a change ... Good to see Nikon is back with SD card, lot of Nikon users (including me) couldn't buy z6/7 due to the XQD slot... that too a single one! I too don't see it as a "cross-over". View our sample gallery to see how a bit of shift can change a photo or introduce creative effects. While they may not wish to offend Nikon by pointing out a major fault they need to realize that ignoring something like this does the readers a dis-service. Sony's new Visual Story app for iOS promises event and wedding photographers a variety of useful tools, designed to simplify their workflow and enhance their business. https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/image-comparison/fullscreen?attr18=lowlight&attr13_0=nikon_z6&attr13_1=nikon_d800&attr13_2=nikon_d810&attr13_3=nikon_d780&attr15_0=raw&attr15_1=raw&attr15_2=raw&attr15_3=raw&attr16_0=25600&attr16_1=25600&attr16_2=25600&attr16_3=25600&normalization=print&widget=629&x=-0.03133269365502396&y=-0.9689982728842834, @DAN I don't take pics of black cats in coal mines without flash so it doesn't matter too much to me :). Mirrorless is not going to supplant DSLR for certain applications anytime soon.If Nikon had presented the D780 to me as a mature camera which would have accepted a battery grip then I would have been kinder about it. 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At the time of publication, some US retailers are offering $300 off the price of a new D780 with the trade-in of any digital camera. CIPA's latest report for global camera shipments shows the camera industry is gaining pace once again in a year marred by the COVID-19 pandemic atop a market already in decline. Some are much better than others. The EVFs for the Nikon Z and the Canon R are also quite nice. A complement to the D780, this lens delivers from wide-angle landscapes, to intimate detailed portraits and everything in … As we continue to test Nikon's update of its multimedia full-framer, we've added more of our findings so far on image quality, dynamic range and video quality. Those who have a bunch of F-mount lenses most likely have dumped them in the used market. Nice Job Nikon. Should I spend Trump CARE stimulus check on D780? Nikon D780 is significantly lighter ... Our Decision Algorithm dynamically scores cameras using 63 different specs, current price and DxO Mark scores (where possible) in order to make a more objective and consistent comparison. The system offers fast, smooth and accurate AF in Live View and when recording video. (Or computational option, whatever that is? The fact I cannot mount the new lenses on this camera makes it a poor buy for me. The D850 has more cross-type autofocus points. Copyright © 2008-2020 DXOMARK. As a former user of the D750, the shutter shock issue was a deal breaker for me then. I'd rather have a DSLR which excells at stills instead of trying to behave like a mirrorless video camera which it can't match.Different types excell at different things. There are aperture control limits for some lenses. The best way to take advantage of XQD speed is to use it as a hard drive. We'll tell you everything you need to know about the D780 and how it did in our testing. They were able to put it in Z6 so space is not an issue. In my opinion, majority of people perfectly understand the obvious quality of the camera.The problem is with the fairly similarly priced d850 at the moment.We can argue that there is a huge difference in these two cameras' life cycles, but in real life, the ACTUAL purchase price of the product is an important factor in the final equation. The D780 isn't the fastest camera in town, but a deep buffer and excellent AF performance make it a solid choice for sports or action. Without even mentioning the weird experience of having 2 different AF systems in the OVF and on the back screen. (The D780 is a much better higher ISO body than pretty much any camera save the S1, Z6, and 1DXIII--likely the D6 too.). Okay, but that just says you don't shoot higher ISOs, above 12800, and that you don't need really good liveview+video AF. To be fair the d800 is probably all the camera most would ever need.Sony menus would probably become second nature to you if you needed to use them. Take a stroll through our updated sample gallery – now with Raw conversions – and see for yourself. But as mirrorless cameras grow in use, most reviewers should review the EVF more rigorously as it does matter a lot to the whole user experience of the camera. The Z's can adapt to the f lenses, but the D780 is stuck with the f lenses. Probably due to the existing lenses being OIS... not sure if it would interfere. That is of no concern to me. The Nikon D780 is available now with an MSRP of $2,299.95 (the same price as the D750 in 2014), or as a kit with the AF-S 24-120mm F4G ED VR lens for $2,799.95. This D780 is chock-full of customization options. With a 1.8x squeeze, the lens produces a more pronounced anamorphic effect than the 1.33x lenses offered by Sirui, albeit at a much higher cost. Where is the vertical grip with controls for vertical shooting? Although, with the launch of mirrorless cameras throughout the industry, people began thinking DSLR's were a thing of the past. No, but your ridiculous question doesn't hide the fact that Nikon doesn't want this to be a cheaper D5. What’s my mirrorless option? Fine if that's what you want, I guess. I’m also enjoying the awesome performance of the 24-70 F2.8S. A decline of 30% year-over-year and you said "The majority may not be". Ironically Olympus seems to be the first mover on that.That said:I am considering buying a dslr again.It will be available and it will be excellent. Z5 is a pretty good value for the dollar, but its just not that simple. Its not that. Find out where the D780 wins! What interpretation? What do you call it? I have several F-mount lenses but I wouldn’t hesitate to sell them on eBay to jump to a new system or another brand. "Image quality is largely determined RAW post-processing software algorithm e.g. Also, you can't seem to comprehend that there are fast SD Cards that are way faster than cheap slow and trash you seem to be using. Fantastic battery capacity, nice grip, nice balance, sturdy built, very good af (i.e high hitrate), ovf and mirrorless af for liveview an movie, n-logg 10 bit, 12 step dynamic range in movie. Can we see the comparative results of this from the 780? Nikon blames the forecast change on an “overestimation of market size/share” and the fact that the shift toward full-frame mirrorless cameras away from full-frame DSLRs “has not accelerated as expected.”, ...In other words, Nikon cameras and lenses need to start contributing to Nikon’s bottom line again instead of weighing it down. For some people this might be a reason why they prefer a DSLR. I have a D800, which I almost invariably use with a GPS sensor, that also functions as a wireless shutter release, connected to it. Combining a 37MP full-frame sensor, minimalist controls and Lightroom Mobile built in, it's a refreshing – if a bit quirky – take on the smartphone-meets-camera concept. well, when I say that the image quality of the Pentax K1-ii is clearly better, it is based on the image quality comparator of dpreview. Good point. When we first reported on the alleged ransomware attack back in August, Canon said it was 'investigating the situation.' I think it best to look at thorough comparison studies from people with excellent testing skills before just trampolining on the Z6. Nikon D780 camera body also feature decent upgrade a 3.2″ tilting touchscreen, a USB Type C port with in-camera charging and twin SD card slots that support UHS-II media. Nikon and Canon became scared and started making non-reflex cameras two years ago. That's it? And the ratio of AF sensor size to OVF size is lower in the D500 than in the D780, D850, etc. Great camera! I brought up the Z6's live view in the D780 which the D500 and D850 clearly don't have. I think some of it has to do with the limits of how certain AF is implemented in DSLRs (specifically, how AF is implemented for the OVF). The Nikon D7500 is Nikon's latest DX DSLR camera released several months ago, US price for D7500 body is $1,246.95. Do you want DSLRs to die? Auto ISO performance top. Planning to treat yourself to a new full-frame camera this holiday season? It is that the non-reflex camera is REPLACING the DSLR. Check out the winners of the 2020 DPReview Awards! There are a lot of photo/video cameras that have found a role as B-cameras on professional productions or A-camera for amateur and independent productions. Those who didn't file a return in 2018 or 2019 won't get one so you have to pay into the system to get one as long as you qualify (ie. It was and is the same with the D700. (I also notice that this review perpetuates the silly DP Review "banding in the deep shadows" thing for the Z cameras, which is not real-world-significant. Many aspects of the camera's behavior, including autofocus, video performance and interval shooting have been significantly improved, bringing a lot of the Z6's capabilities to Nikon's venerable F-mount. Nikon D780 Review - D780 Specifications. DXO Mark rates the sensor on the Z 6 (and the D780 by extrapolation) ... Nikon D780 with a Nikon 28mm f/3.5 PC lens. don't make too much money to a point where it disqualifies you), so yeah probably. Right now its just another iteration of a very good camera. And if you have HDR on in the menu as single shot it works once only. I don't own any XDQ/CFE cards, but your claims are just poor. How many new models of DSLRs have come out since Jan 2019? The recently announced Nikon D780 is the replacement for one of the most praised Nikon DSLR's out there—The Nikon D750. I stand by that. @Gon0S If Leica, Sigma (or even Canon) had used XQD card I won't give two hoots about it because I don't own any of their gears... the very fact I am talking about it is because I care about Nikon. saiko - Thank you for proving/being an example of my point - my earlier post a couple of comments earlier :). The Nikon D780 is a 24 megapixel DSLR capable of shooting 12 frames per second in live view and uncropped 4K video at 30 FPS. I'm not that impatient. One of the things pointed out was that the D780 may bring better sensor performance over the D750 (among other things.) Here is a summary of how Nikon D780 and Canon 5D MIV scores compare: Actually, was just looking at the difference and there's not the hugest difference in the distribution between the d780 and the D850.. The Nikon Zs and the Panasonic SL's are rather nice. They put their eggs in another basket. Nah, not likely. Decide what you want. It seems likes an SLR with well executed live view and video features. Now, three months later, the company has confirmed in a statement that the personal information of past and current employees was taken from its servers. The Laowa 15mm F4.5 Zero-D Shift lens lets you shift perspective without moving the camera, correct for converging lines and more. We're glad you asked. Maybe I will get a Z60000 one day. The best ones I've tried out are the ones for the Panasonic S1R and the Fuji GFX100...which makes sense since they are the same component. Simplest to maintain compatibility with the MB-D18. Um, image quality is largely determined by who is holding the camera. The ONLY reasons why mirrorless doesnt shrink as fast as DSLR’s is because CaNikon after many years of testing jumped on the ship. The D500 also has better OVF AF than either the D850 or the D780. why on earth haven't they increased the number and spread of the focus points?! I own a Pentax K1 and like it very much. The best video features of any Nikon DSLR. In cameras it's advantage is debatable. To be honest, my 5DMK1 puts out better IQ than what I'm seeing in these JPG's. Interesting response. The Canon RF 800mm F11's unique combination of telephoto reach, affordability and light weight will likely enable even more people to do the same. Review: Does the Canon Rebel T8i DSLR make sense in an increasingly mirrorless world? It's still built around a 24MP sensor and 51-point AF system but the more you dig in, the more you discover it's a much more capable machine: a DSLR that's learned a lot from mirrorless. I'm not interested in "convergence" of DSLR with mirrorless lines, though I understand why Nikon is tempted to do it. HOWEVER, the Z mount is future proof and so far, the S lenses represent the best glass Nikon can make. Why would anyone buy this D780 over a Pentax K1-II ?? Can anybody explain what is een rolling shutter? The 24mm F3.5, 35mm F2 and 65mm F2 DG DN share similar designs and have weather-sealed metal bodies. To get a high number of AF points (like 300 or more), I've only seen this on ML cameras because they use on-sensor technology for AF (same concept as using LiveView on a DSLR). Again, I don't understand Sony camera, it's like use a mobile for take pictures. Doesn't seem like you are the target audience for this camera as you are a happy Z shooter. Have a look at our initial sample gallery taken on a full-frame Sony body. But, you know that. Chris and Jordan from DPReview TV also shot a gallery with the lens, but on Panasonic bodies. Anyone who says that has never used a D5. See all this and more at our one stop shop sample gallery. Sorry, but you can bark as loudly as you want, that "only one slot is a utterly bad failure" is just a lame argument for SONY fanboys that were p1ssEd of after years of bashing from Canikon dSLR owners with dual slot memory cards bodies. If you don't even use XQD card (or Nikon Z6 or 7) then why are you going around whinnying about it?! The lack of joystick is unacceptable for a FF DSLR at this price point in 2020. losing the vertical grip and and accompanying extra battery will present some difficulty for those using this camera for Video. Nikon D780 24.5 MP Full Frame DSLR Camera (1618) - Accessory Bundle - with Sandisk Extreme Pro 64GB Card + Additional ENEL15 Battery + Nikon Case + Cleaning Set + More (Renewed) 3.8 out of 5 … If you want to spend your money one such expensive and obscure cards that's doomed to fail, good for you! > The future takes care of itself. If it only had the IBIS, i would order one right now :(. ". 30 seconds, f/11, ISO 100. It just didn't look quite as nice. As a Z6 user, this strikes me as a blast from the past. You could insert any other feature in place of XQD card and somebody would reply that it's absence was a massive mistake or even made the camera unacceptable. Pro = professional = some one who works professionally = earns money on what he/she does. Then in the selection box, you can check up to three cameras at a time to compare their data. I don't know if you watched the video, but he pretty thoroughly explained why one would want a D780 in 2020. Sure, the z lenses are fantastic, what there are of them. Choose the cameras you want to compare from the results below. Most of the Sony's have average EVFs...kind of ironic since with Sony's background in TV and smartphone displays you think they would have this figured out better. Does Nikon believe that every Nikon shooter only uses the camera in the horizontal position? Even Sony doesn't put it in their top of the line FF cameras even though they are a leading manufacturer of XQD cards. Best Lenses for Nikon D780 DSLR camera.Looking for recommended lenses for your Nikon D780? Image Sensor; Sensor Type: CMOS: Sensor Manufacturer: Effective Megapixels: 24.5 Chris and Jordan take a look at the new Sigma 35mm F2 and 65mm F2. Default JPEG noise reduction can be a tad aggressive " Hmmm AA filter! DJI's second-generation Pocket camera includes a long list of useful upgrades including a wider, faster lens, a larger sensor, more resolution, improved audio and an optional handle that significantly improves control and supports live streaming. Not again what? My nose would be in it. 30 seconds, f/11, ISO 100. Most never bought it for the D750. For some reason Z6 users insist their choice is right for me. Otherwise I would save your stimulus check. But I am a happy Canon 6d mark ii owner. We've been putting the new Nikon D780 to the test in places both near and far – here in the snowy/rainy streets of Seattle, out at a professional rugby match and in the sun-drenched streets of Old San Juan, Puerto Rico. After 3.0 firmware addition to the Z6/7 your evaluation of overall score needs to reflect the much needed improvements. But Mirrorles lost ~ 15% value. The DSLR is far from dead. The lack of an ovf knocks several points off the Z6 to begin with for me. The F to Z adapter is not perfect and universal. The DSLR market is an already small niche that is dying. Rugby match, street cat, new apartment flats. Again, ironic. You can realize the difference in plain old everyday indoor shots. More on Sports Score. I was finding the D780 very interesting until I saw the lack of a provision for the MB-16. After all the D780 is just a mirrored Z6 without the use of the fantastic Z series lenses. Now, as the year winds down, we're highlighting some of our standout products of the year. Take a closer look. Looking for a Nikon D850 vs Nikon D780 comparison? The no grip controversy was way overblown. As example setting exposure delay is now very simple compared to a function button on front in combination with a selector wheel or digging deeply in menues. You are not willing to face the facts. The Nikon D780 is proving to be a great all-arounder, regardless of subject matter or lighting conditions. D5 is top of the class camera while D780 even with the grip no one bought is the bottom of the line camera. Sigma's new primes promise very good performance and light weight, when paired with L-mount and Sony E-mount mirrorless interchangeable lens cameras. The app includes automatic image transfer, gallery creation, editing tools and more. Again, bodies have little to do with better IQ. But the AF-C performance is currently far behind the competition. The point I was making is the review isn't consistent with other reviews, why not keep the low light section and other's more similar for easier comparison? It might sound strange, but having used Nikon digital cameras for more than 10 years, the "i" menu function in the D780, taken from the Z6/Z7, is a fantastic improvement in usability, even compared to many other cameras it is a no brainer. ", https://petapixel.com/2019/11/12/nikon-says-its-cameras-need-to-justify-their-existence-as-a-business/. MIOPS has announced Flex, a new smart camera gadget designed to make it easy and simple to capture lightning strikes, action images, holy grail timelapse videos and much more. Let's see what the sales numbers show us. In respect of dpreview's comment on electronic viewfinders, I put my eye to the Sony 6400's viewfinder and was shocked at how poor an experience it was in respect of my experience of the Xpro-1 electronic viewfinder. bigger. Seriously, you are acting like a child. I never understood why that lame argument was used, as it was lame and insignifiant, period.There are still many point MILC that are critcable, but frankly the single slot pseudo fiasco was not one. So cameras like the D780 unfortunately don't get the positive attention it should. (I find the screw collar securing the 10-pin terminal fiddly to use, but that’s got little to do with its location). Shooting video or stills with that fantastic live view, and shooting stills with the great ovf af is what makes this a crossover. Here is where you'll find all the nitty gritty details. The D800, like Nikon’s other pro-spec DSLRs, has a 10-pin accessory terminal on the front. Exactly. Even more so, if you convert it to full spectrum / IR. I love people photography but also want to take ice hockey and dog action pics. Make a great camera and then limit the options. If you're looking for a high-quality camera, you don't need to spend a ton of cash, nor do you need to buy the latest and greatest new product on the market. So pour a tall cold one and get ready to treat yourself, 2020 style.
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